I think you are both making good points, I thought Vance made an excellent speech. If, God forbid, the current version of the "Democrats" return to office in four years the censorship and authoritarianism will no doubt return with a vengeance. It seems the MSM are telling themselves the Dems WILL return, so they are doubling down with this dangerous nonsense ("free speech created the Nazis" etc). As are, of course, the EU and the UK. We in the UK may as well still be in the EU, given Starmer's apparent complete agreement with those idiotic German and French authoritarian warmongers, who desperately want this catastrophic war to go on, and think it's OK to declare "inconvenient" elections null and void. Starmer, of course, is the most idiotic of all, and will be defeated by Farage if this goes on. In any case, I desperately hope Europe returns to some kind of sanity, but that doesn't seem likely.
Excellent article and gives us hope here in Europe, I am very encouraged by this and the fact that JD responded ! Thank you for all that you bring to light! Here in Italy we see the worst of the worst idiots on the left continually spewing garbage and sabotage, they seem to follow the demoRats play book in the US. Same dirty games. So tiring.
They're gonna all go to the dustbin of history now. A few more speeches like this, a few genuine deals, a few genuine anything (as opposed to the unreal simulacrum of the past decades), and people will catch on and rid the Earth of the corrupt establishment scum.
With any luck, we living through, or approaching, a moment akin to the fall of the Second World, where it had seemed that the bolsheviks had cemented the status quo for ever, yet the whole thing came crashing down like a house of card within months.
It is possibly unprecented that a top Western official, especially a US one, would respond to a critical European independent journalist in this thoughtful way.
I broadly agree with your critique of JD Vance's speech Thomas, and I hugely admire him for making it in the first place. And it seems almost too good to be true that you've been able to have that exchange of views with the new VPOTUS in 2025!
Many thanks to you both for your contributions to constructive dialogue and to free speech in this era..
Sorry, this "we're just little ole vassals" doesn't wash. I remember German government officials laughing at Trump at the UN. That wasn't the laugh of a bullied country, it was the laugh of a cocky, smug country that looks down on America, but uses it for its own advantage. I think one of those laughing Germans was crying the other day, which is a delicious end to the story. I enjoyed every one of his tears.
Hate speech laws in Europe go back 30 or 40 years. We've never had hate speech laws in the U.S. Blaming America for your hate speech laws is like me blaming Germany for my toothache. As for Nord Stream, I don't think the country you think did it actually did it.
Not only Europe, but the whole West, if not the world, has to man up and stop whining. The weeping faggot at the Munich conference should serve as the ultimate warning sign as to what lows people have allowed themselves to sink. Gotta grow some balls!
People have to stop self-victimizing, blaming this that and the other thing for their weaknesses or misfortunes, and seek help at the end of their arm.
I applaud Vance for empowering those who understand this, but might have kept a low profile because of persecution by the establishment that pushes promotes weaklings, faggotism, transmotherfuckerism, and all the rest. We all have to rise up, flush the putrid corrupt establishment down the drain and start anew.
It's naive to expect that the world can be rid of evil for ever and ever. That never happens. What needs to be done is promote the good and oppose the bad. So, it's pointless for anyone, such as Europe, to complain about its treatment by the US, or anything else for that matter. The tough gotta get going, others must join in, and together we gotta purge teh Augean stables!
Europeans never accept responsibility for anything. They deny, deflect and filibuster. This whole "you made us do it" line is very popular in Britain and France too. It's a sickness, actually.
As the saying goes. "the truth shall set you free," Europe has to embark on its own journey to discover their truth--how the comity allowed for the passage to vassalage. But at the same time, the US coerced European policy to go that way---bullying nations into creating policy that did not allow for the best of human flourishing. This attitude did not only stifle European cultural growth but it also fostered the demise of its own
Thank you for the excellent exchange with JD, Mr. Fazi - but are we sure JD understands what exact sort of colonial empire his predecessors have been running in Europe since WWII, and especially in the last 30 years or so? Maybe it will take him some time to grasp the degree of subservience of the "EU" to the Washington Swamp? MAybe he needs to read the Sassnitz Cruze-Johnson-Cotton letter, pretty much Trump's big allies nowadays, for him to appreciate it. He was not anywhere near the White House at that time. Ironically, Mr Putin is becoming a big friend too - he must have sold that Nordstream to the US bidder by now, as is his habit.
I thought "wait a minute . . ." when JD Vance criticised the annulment of the Romanian Calin Georgescu's election victory, which was clearly driven by concerns of the USA Democrats and the mainstream, generally pro-USA, European political establishment. He did acknowledge the USA's role in this anti-democratic rot, in general.
I think you are both making good points, I thought Vance made an excellent speech. If, God forbid, the current version of the "Democrats" return to office in four years the censorship and authoritarianism will no doubt return with a vengeance. It seems the MSM are telling themselves the Dems WILL return, so they are doubling down with this dangerous nonsense ("free speech created the Nazis" etc). As are, of course, the EU and the UK. We in the UK may as well still be in the EU, given Starmer's apparent complete agreement with those idiotic German and French authoritarian warmongers, who desperately want this catastrophic war to go on, and think it's OK to declare "inconvenient" elections null and void. Starmer, of course, is the most idiotic of all, and will be defeated by Farage if this goes on. In any case, I desperately hope Europe returns to some kind of sanity, but that doesn't seem likely.
Excellent article and gives us hope here in Europe, I am very encouraged by this and the fact that JD responded ! Thank you for all that you bring to light! Here in Italy we see the worst of the worst idiots on the left continually spewing garbage and sabotage, they seem to follow the demoRats play book in the US. Same dirty games. So tiring.
Same here, a few countries higher up north.
They're gonna all go to the dustbin of history now. A few more speeches like this, a few genuine deals, a few genuine anything (as opposed to the unreal simulacrum of the past decades), and people will catch on and rid the Earth of the corrupt establishment scum.
With any luck, we living through, or approaching, a moment akin to the fall of the Second World, where it had seemed that the bolsheviks had cemented the status quo for ever, yet the whole thing came crashing down like a house of card within months.
i agree with your conclusions here and applaud both you and vance for making this extended conversation happen...
Wow!
It is possibly unprecented that a top Western official, especially a US one, would respond to a critical European independent journalist in this thoughtful way.
Very encouraging.
I broadly agree with your critique of JD Vance's speech Thomas, and I hugely admire him for making it in the first place. And it seems almost too good to be true that you've been able to have that exchange of views with the new VPOTUS in 2025!
Many thanks to you both for your contributions to constructive dialogue and to free speech in this era..
Sorry, this "we're just little ole vassals" doesn't wash. I remember German government officials laughing at Trump at the UN. That wasn't the laugh of a bullied country, it was the laugh of a cocky, smug country that looks down on America, but uses it for its own advantage. I think one of those laughing Germans was crying the other day, which is a delicious end to the story. I enjoyed every one of his tears.
Hate speech laws in Europe go back 30 or 40 years. We've never had hate speech laws in the U.S. Blaming America for your hate speech laws is like me blaming Germany for my toothache. As for Nord Stream, I don't think the country you think did it actually did it.
Not only Europe, but the whole West, if not the world, has to man up and stop whining. The weeping faggot at the Munich conference should serve as the ultimate warning sign as to what lows people have allowed themselves to sink. Gotta grow some balls!
People have to stop self-victimizing, blaming this that and the other thing for their weaknesses or misfortunes, and seek help at the end of their arm.
I applaud Vance for empowering those who understand this, but might have kept a low profile because of persecution by the establishment that pushes promotes weaklings, faggotism, transmotherfuckerism, and all the rest. We all have to rise up, flush the putrid corrupt establishment down the drain and start anew.
It's naive to expect that the world can be rid of evil for ever and ever. That never happens. What needs to be done is promote the good and oppose the bad. So, it's pointless for anyone, such as Europe, to complain about its treatment by the US, or anything else for that matter. The tough gotta get going, others must join in, and together we gotta purge teh Augean stables!
Europeans never accept responsibility for anything. They deny, deflect and filibuster. This whole "you made us do it" line is very popular in Britain and France too. It's a sickness, actually.
As the saying goes. "the truth shall set you free," Europe has to embark on its own journey to discover their truth--how the comity allowed for the passage to vassalage. But at the same time, the US coerced European policy to go that way---bullying nations into creating policy that did not allow for the best of human flourishing. This attitude did not only stifle European cultural growth but it also fostered the demise of its own
So just ordered your co author Covid book. But please tell me: was covid natured or nurtured. You opine please
And this is what the peasants, like me, appreciate: civil and constructive discussion.
Yes, but you must also realise that this "time to engage thoughtfully and respectfully with a critical journalist" is part of a strategy.
Thank you for the excellent exchange with JD, Mr. Fazi - but are we sure JD understands what exact sort of colonial empire his predecessors have been running in Europe since WWII, and especially in the last 30 years or so? Maybe it will take him some time to grasp the degree of subservience of the "EU" to the Washington Swamp? MAybe he needs to read the Sassnitz Cruze-Johnson-Cotton letter, pretty much Trump's big allies nowadays, for him to appreciate it. He was not anywhere near the White House at that time. Ironically, Mr Putin is becoming a big friend too - he must have sold that Nordstream to the US bidder by now, as is his habit.
I thought "wait a minute . . ." when JD Vance criticised the annulment of the Romanian Calin Georgescu's election victory, which was clearly driven by concerns of the USA Democrats and the mainstream, generally pro-USA, European political establishment. He did acknowledge the USA's role in this anti-democratic rot, in general.
JD Vance also read and contributed to an X/Twitter discussion https://x.com/JDVance/status/1890760676282601590 of Eugyppius' as reported here https://www.eugyppius.com/p/there-is-no-room-for-firewalls-us.
The trifecta will be when he engages with Simplicius: https://simplicius76.substack.com and https://x.com/simpatico771.
Oh, my! Thank you for sharing. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, I had missed that important section!