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Niels Duus's avatar

It may seem improbable - but not impossible - that Germans would sabotage their own pipeline. What these informations reveal, though, is that it certainly is improbable that the Russians did it, given that NATO manouvers were going on in the area.

I remember I checked marinetraffic.com right after the explosions, and it showed USS Kearsarge being present right where the bombs went off, the day before they went off. This information is now redacted, and Kearsarge is now shown as positioned in the English Channel on the day of the attack - in spite of the fact, that it is public knowledge that the Kearsarge was a part of the manouvers in the Baltic Sea at the time. I didn't take a screenshot, so I have no proof.

Anyway - no matter who did it, it shows something about NATOs naval capabilities: Whoever managed to do it, did it in spite of the fact that NATO naval assets were manouvering all over the place. Which means that either NATO was in on the plan, or that NATOs naval assets are essentially useless. In any case it provides a great incentive for NATO to keep this information secret.

NATO was either in on it, or NATO is useless.

Cheers from Denmark!

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Geoffrey Dewan's avatar

I also have a very hard time seeing why Germans would blow up a pipeline so that they would be forced to buy gas from the U.S at double the price.

I believe that another very important question in a crime investigation is... cui bono?

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Howard Steen's avatar

Very interesting indeed, Thomas. I have followed this false-flag terror attack with great interest through its various twists and turns. Good to see that Freddy is keeping at it. For me, this was a very prophetic moment in the run up to Ukraine hostilities. https://odysee.com/@shortXXvids:e/Nordstream-Sabotage:3

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Ed Protas's avatar

I'll keep my money on Seymour Hersh having the right of it all along. I simply can't look away from Joe Biden standing at his podium and telling folks (nod, nod, wink, wink) that Nord Stream 2 would get shut down. Seymour got the wheat; everything else is just chaff.

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Perseus's avatar

Germans have always had a tendency towards self-destruction. If the dumbest of the dumbest publications in Germany have actually managed to completely dumb down the country of poets and thinkers so that they keep voting for the same idiots to regulate them.

The fact that they voted for Merz, who will now pull the wool over their eyes by preventing the reopening of the pipeline, will probably condemn him to the deepest corners of hell for eternity.

On a larger scale, societal structures, economic disparities, and environmental crises can lead to collective behaviors that may seem self-destructive. For example, environmental degradation or war can be viewed as humanity's failure to prioritize long-term survival. This can't be cured with a sledgehammer and it's essential to approach the topic with sensitivity and an understanding of the complexities of mental health and societal dynamics.

Let's see, the US investor wants to buy the NS 2 and has already submitted applications.

https://eurasiabusinessnews.com/2024/11/23/u-s-investor-stephen-lynch-to-buy-the-nord-stream-pipeline/

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Brad TeN's avatar

Oh dear oh dear oh dear ! Has the author been on a submarine ? No ! Have they served on a submarine No ! I have and your knowledge is sadly like a lacking in key points . Firstly delay fuses on any type of explosive is entirely possible and in today’s warfare highly deliverable . Secondly to carry out this type of espionage from a submarine with multiple layers of scrutiny and security as well as many idle tongues from rank and file is not even found in fictional espionage stories . There’s more , much more but you need to do a bit more homework on how submarines operate and conduct their operations and how they are supervised both technically and by humans …there you will find your answers.

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Gilgamech's avatar

I wouldn’t say Hersh’s story didn’t cover this. His account is that US Navy mine warfare divers planted the explosives. At a depth of 100m they would not be free diving from the surface! A submarine is an obvious delivery mechanism for US Navy mine warfare divers.

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Jazzme's avatar

We were much more convincing in your arguments placing the covid origin at the Wohan institute of virology than this article involvining NATO/German sub(s) placing mines at the explosion pipeline site. Why would Germany want to explode inexpensive Russian gas to run their economy. And heat their homes

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james's avatar

quote from the article - "However, it is very difficult for me to imagine that German marines were involved in the Nord Stream blast or were even in on it, but let’s wait and see how things develop."

another question - why is germany determined to destroy it's economy? it appears neither scholz or merz have any change in this basic approach...

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JennyStokes's avatar

Thank you Thomas. I await new revelations..

I am sharing this because it is important to everyone (public) to know what our Countries are doing.

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Howard Steen's avatar

Thanks. I am looking forward to Freddy‘s June report which may hopefully shed more light on this false (unknown) flag terror attack effectively on all of Continental Europe‘s energy infrastructure. I mean, imagine something like this would happen in the USA. There would be all hell let loose. But instead no interest from Germany to find the culprits. It stinks to high heaven.

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Dougie 4's avatar

Bear in mind that submarines can only enter or leave the Baltic by making a surface passage through the Kattegat. So, if a NATO submarine was covertly involved it could only belong to a country with a Baltic naval base. Poland's one submarine was out of action between 2021 and 2024, so she is not the culprit. The Baltic States do not have submarines, Sweden and Finland were not in NATO at the time.

That leaves Germany.

Mine countermeasures vessels have remote operated undersea vehicles that are designed to drop an explosive charge next to an enemy mine on the seabed. An obvious candidate for the Nordstream sabotage.

But don't discount Russia's very capable undersea capability. It's far from unfeasible that a Russian submersible or SUV could operate without Marcom knowledge.

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Tim Vulker's avatar

They found unexploded bombs on the pipeline, nice theory but no... It wasn't likely a mine layer...

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Gilgamech's avatar

The countries who control either end of the pipeline, and so are able to simply turn it off, are the least plausible suspects in this bombing. The bombing is the act of a party that has no control over the pipeline. So the US, possibly the Ukraine, maybe even the UK.

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Kazimir Malevitch's avatar

Txs for this additional info and evidences!

Don't know if you already red the Ola Tunader articles, seen he is Norwegian and a specialist in strategic naval warfare. If not I recommend you, here is one of many posts https://open.substack.com/pub/olatunander/p/the-use-of-two-us-p-8-poseidon-during?r=1fzv86&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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Jazzme's avatar

Fazi you were much more convincing afew asserting the covid pandamic was birthed at a Wohan virology lab than in asserting a NATO/German U2 sub laid the mines the blew up Nord 2 pipelines.

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