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Pascal Clérotte's avatar

Well, I think it's even simpler than that. Trump works for Israel. Period.

WRT China, there's speech and actions. Trump has systematically avoided any direct confrontation with China.

And China is not avoiding confrontation with the US. China's been playing smart. Take the ballistic technology proliferation for the past 20 years to the key bricks of its Belt and Road. The US and Israel are now bearing the brunt of it.Any attempt to sow disorder only reinforces China's standing as the prime source of order.

China as a matter of fact controls the Ormuz Straight and the red sea, indirectly...

Foosball's avatar

It surprised me that so many of the Arab Muslim nations in the Middle East are now openly angry at Iran.

So many people on the left are supporting the Iranian regime that it completely makes a mockery of the the idea that no one can take on Iran, especially the west.

They are now isolated and have very few friends in the world anymore.

Unfortunately, many of the far left politicians in the United States who will always just take the opposite side of anything President Trump does because they are unable to logically think through any of their thoughts and views anymore.

Bush 43 will go down as the worst president in the history of the United States as he invaded Iraq for the insane idea of spreading democracy in the Middle East.

I certainly worry about a never-ending war for the simple fact of what bush 43 did while he was in office.

Have a good day, my brother be safe and let us hope that Iran is not able to kill any more American citizens as well as the other citizens of the Arab nations in the Middle East.

We also need to hope that Iran’s leadership will no longer murder, its own people for gathering in the streets.

Be safe, my friend.

Pascal Clérotte's avatar

That's besides the point. Public opinion in the region are blaming US bases and those who agreed to them... See what's happening in Bahrain (over60% of shiite) where Saoudi Arabai had to intervene.

Foosball's avatar

Ok Paskey, You might wanna Let those Arab Muslim countries what your opinion is.

I was just merely Quoting what they had to say about Iran bombing their sovereign country.

They certainly do not seem to be very happy about it as this article that I quoted seems to be the case.

I think it would behoove you to contact them as you might get a receptive response to your concerns.

Please don’t blame the messenger as I only posted The Official reply that sovereign Nations in the Middle East who were attacked by Iran.

If you are a member of the Shia Sect I certainly can understand your Defense Of the clerical regime That rules over Iran ,But one can never dispute the facts in this matter.

It must be an extremely difficult task in trying to explain to your Muslim neighbors in the Middle East that you did Not want to kill Innocent citizens in there sovereign country.

Be safe, brother be safe.😁

Foosball's avatar

All the red lines have already been crossed," said Qatar's foreign ministry spokesman Majed al Ansari at a press briefing on Tuesday.

"The attacks on our sovereignty are constant," he told journalists.

"There are attacks on infrastructure. There are attacks on our residential areas. And the effects of these attacks are very clear. When it comes to possible retaliation, all options are with our leadership. But we have to make it very clear that attacks like these will not go unanswered and cannot go unanswered."

Pascal Clérotte's avatar

Yeah, well, lip service. If any Gulf Monarchy moves again Iran, full blown people's revolt. They are pissed off at the US and Israel.

Feral Finster's avatar

The US simply seeks to cut off Chinese access to inputs and markets.

And yes, Trump is a puppet.

Foosball's avatar

All the red lines have already been crossed," said Qatar's foreign ministry spokesman Majed al Ansari at a press briefing on Tuesday.

"The attacks on our sovereignty are constant," he told journalists.

"There are attacks on infrastructure. There are attacks on our residential areas. And the effects of these attacks are very clear. When it comes to possible retaliation, all options are with our leadership. But we have to make it very clear that attacks like these will not go unanswered and cannot go unanswered."

Tony Buck's avatar

Perhaps co-conspirator would be more accurate. Trump is too assertive and brutish to be anyone's puppet.

Feral Finster's avatar

Trump is weak, stupid and easily manipulated.

Pascal Clérotte's avatar

What inputs? China main primary energy sources is coal (rooughly, 65%), Russia oil suffice to compensate Iran, and China controls most critical materials. And when it comes to market, well, Trump did take back his tariffs...

Feral Finster's avatar

So no Venezuelan oil, no Iranian oil went to China? The US is not ready to dangle out promises to Russia?

Pascal Clérotte's avatar

Venezulean oil is of poor quality and there are pipelines linking directly Russia and China. Trump has no cards in his hands.

Feral Finster's avatar

Regardless of quality, China imported it.

Russia desperately wants to be allowed to join The Club.

Pascal Clérotte's avatar

Russia has already joined the club ans has given up on the West.

Tony Buck's avatar

Most of us organise our thoughts before expressing an opinion. This is usually a good policy.

But Trump has twigged that if you're the boss, you can make a good thing of expressing your thoughts BEFORE organising them - principally so as to confuse or mislead people.

Foosball's avatar

All the red lines have already been crossed," said Qatar's foreign ministry spokesman Majed al Ansari at a press briefing on Tuesday.

"The attacks on our sovereignty are constant," he told journalists.

"There are attacks on infrastructure. There are attacks on our residential areas. And the effects of these attacks are very clear. When it comes to possible retaliation, all options are with our leadership. But we have to make it very clear that attacks like these will not go unanswered and cannot go unanswered."

Robert Ritchie's avatar

Why do you self-describe as "left"? By doing so you fall into the Manichean-Orwellian rhetorical traps built by those who oppose you.

Jazzme's avatar

Ew..sounds like Thomas is egging China to get into the geopolitical arena and play hard ball. Thanks Thomas cause I agree. China's long game is being superceded by the USA/Israel short game: constant minute by minute day by day week by week choas. **when you are up to you neck in allegations it's hard to keep your mind on the long game**

Currently the bully strategy as you stated yourself Thomas appears to be winning; suppressing the nascent emerging multipolar world battle for dominance. The bullies see themselves under extestential threat and have the nukes and military hardware to keep them on top. An emerging multipolar world currently can't out bully them. ~So many examples of this last point~

Stefano's avatar

Interesting speech. Given all that's happened, the current war could serve to fracture the ubiquitous control in Western countries of the Globalist Hegemonic Class. From a disinterested neutral perspective, Europe and the broader world in general, need more Orban's (national leaders pursuing national priorities).

This is what an Iranian survival could gift everyone else. Venezuela has a gun pointed to its head, and the situation there is tenuous and far from resolved.

The recent narratives pushed by MSM of the USA abandoning NATO/Europe, the Greenland debacle, the neutral mediator over Ukraine, etc, are pure BS to feed the illusion of sovereignty and independence, as well as potentially create the false impression of weakness so Russia missteps in its Ukraine strategy. The same BS was true in the DJT pre-election brand for breaking with previous USA policy, as post-election DJT Is true to form and demonstrates continuity of agenda, like his predecessors.

Our bias is to assume things stay the same (plus ça change...), yet we can clearly see how the post-1989 USA Unipolar Hegemony has morphed into a Western Globist Hegemony, with a transnational ideological faction firmly in the driver's seat, consolidated over the years through coordination institutions (such as wef, the EU, etc). The attack on Venezuela in January of this year, followed by infamous Carney speech at Munich in February, are actually synonymous and self-reinforcing, as is the current war between USrael and Iran, as they all degrade the legitimacy of post-WW2 architecture of international law and multilateral institutions. They signal a change in pace in the future outlook. The lack of fruitful dividends from the Ukrainian peace process further highlights the potential existence of a hidden agenda behind the scenes. And if anything, the existence of a war in Ukraine fits with this perspective quite well, as does the denial of potential electoral change with the "core" in Romania in 2024. Meloni arrival in 2022 appears to be the last "outsider" to be allowed in before the hatch was sealed, and even she's had to bend the knee to stay in power (Italy has always been subservient to Washington since 1945).

While energy undoubtedly plays a foundational role in international relations, as it undergirds the economy (and is linked to GDP), Europe and the USA intertwining destinies is a natural precursor in the great game to the coupling of Russia and China. Nordstream 1 was a Kohl-Schroeder project of the 1990s, and independently minded European leaders (like Orban) have been scarce since the EU behemoth willed itself into existence post-2000. We could certainly make the case of a European subservience to the USA, but if we realistically look at what's happening in the current ongoing war with Iran, just as in June 2025, we can see intentional team roles being played by various European powers (UK and France, but also Italy and soon Germany will enter the fray). So it's more helpful to see an overarching ideological faction composed of many factions acting in unison while presenting themselves as separate entities (countries) willing to nominally bicker while playing like a team.

Starmer in the UK is another great example of continuity of agenda, with Farage being primed as the outsider to the establishment, while actually being an insider. The FN (France) and AfD (Germany) are just like Meloni (Italy): nominally they are outsiders, but in reality they are establishment approved and even if they were to win their national contests electorally, within the EU institutional framework and national deep-state bureaucracies, would not have any margin to plot a course outside the Western Hegemonic Globalist bloc.

Lastly, it's not a coincidence if 2025 saw the emergence of a nationalist establishment part in Japan with an adversarial outlook towards China. A truly independent Japan-centric nationalism would look to decouple from the USA just as much as it would see China as a peer competitor.

Ida's avatar

Maybe the protests of the peoples of Europe will have some importance in this process if and when they will become more intense. We might see it as the price of energy (and of everything, consequently) rises. I'm afraid we won't have to wait too long.

St Stephen's avatar

Yes, for what it's worth, I believe your analysis is exactly right. And, as an aside in response to another comment made here, I'm constantly surprised by the myopia of those unable to understand the true nature of the relationship between Israel and the US: that the dog does actually do the wagging, not the arse-end.