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IronForge's avatar

Again the incorrect Chronology surfaces.

Again, the correct sequence is:

A) The 2014 Coup occurred after the Pro-Westerners didn't like Putin's offer of Loan_Forgiveness, revised Gas Deal, new Financial Aid - better than €U's, and the option of Kiev to simultaneously partake in €U's less Aide Package;

B) The Coup declaring Russian Ethnics Sub-Citizen Rights;

C) Crimea, Donbas, and Lughansk voting with their feet and Seceding from Kiev;

D) Crimea then overwhelmimgly voting to join Russia, which was responded by Russia to agree with a vote to enjoin Crimea - which had been Russian Territory until Kruschev's transfer;

E) The fighting continued beyond the Coup for years - through the €URo-sabotaged Minsk Accords;

F) With Ukraine moving to send the AFU into now seceded Donesk&Lughansk Republics in 2022, Russia stepped in to intervene with the SMO.

No Whitewashing, please.

Bonnie Blodgett's avatar

The day Russia "invaded" Ukraine my brother, a Cargill exec, informed me quite gleefully that the war would end with Putin's ouster. The plan is described in detail in the 2019 Rand Corporation report on how this proxy war would weaken ("extend" is the paper's

euphemism for "over-extend") Russia economically and thus backfire on its president.

Won't happen, I remarked. My brother offered proof. Cargill was the only Western corporation that had kept its employees in Moscow instead of making a show of protest by removing them. Why? The war would end in regime change and the U.S. and Europe would fill the power vacuum, divide Russia into small rump states, and share in the spoils that the West had "earned" in the 1990s. Putin foiled that plan. This new one, I was told, would mean the end of Russia.

I'm sure the oil giants (Exxon et al) were even more deeply involved in this than Cargill was, but they are publicly traded and have to be careful of their image. Cargill is the largest privately held corporation in the world. Its business, it claims, is "feeding the world." My brother said its involvement in the regime change plot was owing to climate change. "Siberia will soon become the global breadbasket, as global warming renders the American Midwest incapable of producing the GMO corn and soy that are fertilized by synthetic (oil-based) nitrogen and fed not to people, of course, but to hogs and chickens imprisoned in filthy CAFOS (Concentrated Feeding Operations) and beef cattle "finished" in filthy feedlots.

The corruption knows no bounds, unfortunately. Ukraine is the tip of a really big iceberg. The BRICS alliance isn't perfect, but it is humanity's best shot at surviving the ravages of Western hooliganism.

Feral Finster's avatar

1. The war is the best thing that ever happened to Zelenskii. Before the war, he was an increasingly authoritarian ruler of a corrupt and backward third world shithole.

Now, he stands aside The Beacon Of Muh Democracy, the the most democraticest country in the world, the country so democratic it no longer need bother with pesky elections, boring terms of office, or outdated things like freedom of speech, the press, religion or association.

The end of the war would be the biggest catastrophe imaginable. Anything less than nirvana and he'd be blamed. He could no longer shield himself by claiming a state of emergency.

2. Yes, Virginia, Zelenskii is corrupt and cynical, a full-blown Game Of Thrones sociopath. No duh. So are the persons are around him.

Nobody cares, as long as the army keeps fighting.

Lena's avatar

What is the role of EU and Anglosphere Ukrainian lobby in all that? It is them, after all, who facilitate this war.

Miranda's avatar

Thanks so much for summarising all this.